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Which is best - FM, DAB or satellite

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Posted on Oct 09, 2008, 7:49 PM

Which is best - FM, DAB or satellite

Hi

Since I have no means of testing this without paying for a decent aerial - which would sound best - assuming a decent aerial was used.

a. FM, b. DAB or c. listening to one of the radio channels on Sky HD

Sky HD is all I've got and sounds pretty good but my memory of having a tuner 20 years ago makes me think that FM can sound fantastic.

BTW I listen to radio 1 & 2 and local commercial radio mainly.

Thanks

Musical Fidelity A3.2 Amp; Musical Fidelity A3.2 CD; Monitor Audio Silver S8 (front speakers)
+ Q Acoustics 1010 5.1; Sony S350 Blu-Ray player; Denon 2808 AV Receiver (pre-out to MF Amp for front speakers); Sky HD; Benq PE7700 HD Projector.

Posted on Oct 09, 2008, 8:20 PM

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I'd say FM, Sky and DAB in that order.
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Posted on Oct 10, 2008, 9:41 AM

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Thanks Andy

Is the FM tuner in my Denon 2808 going to sound much better than the Sky HD radio?  If so I might have to invest in a decent outdoor aerial.

Musical Fidelity A3.2 Amp; Musical Fidelity A3.2 CD; Monitor Audio Silver S8 (front speakers)
+ Q Acoustics 1010 5.1; Sony S350 Blu-Ray player; Denon 2808 AV Receiver (pre-out to MF Amp for front speakers); Sky HD; Benq PE7700 HD Projector.

Posted on Oct 10, 2008, 9:49 AM

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Yes, I'd invest in a decent roof-top aerial and use the FM tuner in the Denon for best results.
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Posted on Oct 10, 2008, 10:34 AM

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Andy Clough:
I'd say FM, Sky and DAB in that order.

sorry to nitpick andy, but is that ascending or descending quality order?  I know DAB is supposed to be the bee's knees, but my experience (around south west of london) is that the signal strength and quality varies from non-existent to moderate, with stations not always being availble so FM is my favourite (with a 6ft internal aerial).

 of course if cricket is what is being listened to, then its LW or Radio 5 live extra on the digital tv box. Smile

Posted on Oct 10, 2008, 12:39 PM

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The order I gave was best to worst. Good quality FM transmissions will often sound better than DAB, so I agree with you FM is best. And living like you in SW London, DAB reception can be pretty poor at times with lots of signal break-up (happens all the time in my kitchen!). Don't get me started on DAB bitrates Angry
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Posted on Oct 10, 2008, 1:28 PM

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The BBC use Nicam to send audio to their FM transmitters.

Nicam is 14bit with a sampling rate of 32khz and a bit rate of ~700kbps, which is compounded to 10bit for transmission.

Sadly DAB uses very low bitrates and a rubbish codec.

Freeview/Sky offer higher bitrates and will sound fine through a good DAC.

Internet radio has the potential for high bitrates and good codecs, if we're lucky. I've found plenty of 320kbps classical stations. Again you need a good DAC; not just the headphone output of your laptop!

 

Posted on Oct 14, 2008, 11:40 PM

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a4quattro:

Freeview/Sky offer higher bitrates and will sound fine through a good DAC.


Strangely I have RCA connectors on the back of an older Panasonic CRT telly which has built in  Freeview too - I plugged it into my Kandy after reading this and it sounds really good!

Outside of Radio 3 and what used to be on  LW, DAB pretty much sucks.  I have a small Roberts portable which is a well featured DAB / FM radio, sounds really good through headphones. The coolest thing about it though is that it does almost all the swish DAB style tuning stuff in FM too.

 

Posted on Oct 15, 2008, 12:46 AM

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Xanderzdad:

Hi


Since I have no means of testing this without paying for a decent aerial - which would sound best - assuming a decent aerial was used.


a. FM, b. DAB or c. listening to one of the radio channels on Sky HD


Sky HD is all I've got and sounds pretty good but my memory of having a tuner 20 years ago makes me think that FM can sound fantastic.


BTW I listen to radio 1 & 2 and local commercial radio mainly.


Thanks



I'd get a DAC to use with your Sky HD box like A4quattro suggested. The Cambridge Audio DacMagic is getting alot of attention. But I'd also recommend the TAG McLaren DAC20 which as you can see from my signature that I have in my system. They sell for £300 second hand.

T+A D10, T+A V10, T+A TCI 2E, Arcam DV135, Tag McLaren DAC20, Michell Gyro SE (SME IV, Ortofon Kontrapunkt B), Trichord Research Dino & Dino+. Isotek Orion. Audioquest Quartz x3, Black Rhodium AST200x2, Black Rhodium Supermains 13.

Posted on Oct 17, 2008, 1:15 PM

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Exactly what I do - albeit into a Beresford DAC (£120) - works wonderfully...


We're on the last freedom moped out of nowhere city and we haven't even told our parents what time we'll be back.

Posted on Oct 18, 2008, 10:33 AM

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Even with a rooftop aerial, I can never get a decent FM signal on most stations where I live so it's DAB all the way for me. I agree about the bitrates being low but nowadays I only ever listen on my portable Pure Evoke Flow so it's not much of an issue. Still, when DAB+ eventually arrives it should (hopefully) address the issues about sound quality.

Posted on Oct 19, 2008, 10:01 AM

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Hi

Thanks for all the advice.  I am intrigued about the use of a DAC though.  Is this to bypass the DAC in my Denon 2808?  Would it be that much better?

Thanks

Musical Fidelity A3.2 Amp; Musical Fidelity A3.2 CD; Monitor Audio Silver S8 (front speakers)
+ Q Acoustics 1010 5.1; Sony S350 Blu-Ray player; Denon 2808 AV Receiver (pre-out to MF Amp for front speakers); Sky HD; Benq PE7700 HD Projector.

Posted on Nov 12, 2008, 9:51 AM

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hi andy is fm not due to be switched off like analouge tv soon, i may be wrong any info on this welcome thanks.

Posted on Nov 12, 2008, 10:02 PM

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dvdaudio:
hi andy is fm not due to be switched off like analouge tv soon, i may be wrong any info on this welcome thanks.
there's no immediate plans for digital switchover of radio transmissions at present, think there is some info on the digital switch over website somewhere.


edit- here in fact

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Posted on Nov 12, 2008, 11:51 PM

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Some info on the switch to digital radio here.Don't hold your breath!

http://www.culture.gov.uk/reference_library/media_releases/5216.aspx

 

Chris

 

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