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V+ and white lines at top of picture.

Last post Nov 24, 2008, 10:01 PM by grdunn123. (13 replies)
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 10:24 PM

V+ and white lines at top of picture.

V+ and white lines at top of picture.

Part of two problems I have posted about. Some channels (Setanta: David Haye boxing being the latest)have a white line with black dashes in at the top of the picture.

The line runs almost all the way accross the top from left towards the end of the right, and is under a finger's width. It looks like the little advert scroll, but stretched accross the whole screen and less thick.

It isn't my TV as I have seen the same effect on my 37 inch LCD in the bedroom, with a different V+ box.

Why does this happen, and is it something that I have to put up with, or can I solve it? I presume it is a broadcast fault as I have seen it in two seperate set ups?
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 10:32 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

Not come across this one myself. Anyone else had this problem?
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 11:01 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

It happens on my V+ but not really that annoying.
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 11:12 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

Not annoying....?

Thats not the point. What is it! I'll have to be more aware of which channels etc. It has been evident for a few weeks now on both my V+ set ups, on and off.
To the point where it seems to be a problem that needs to be dealt with.
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 11:15 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.


I had same problem with my Humax, it was tv size setting I think - ie 4:3 letterbox instead of 16:9.....



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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 11:22 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

It's only about 1 to 2mm in size on my TV to be fair.
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 11:23 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

Well, both my TV's are LCD 16:9.

Both are set up correctly, with hdmi from the V+. And the fault is only some channels some of the time. How can that be size setting? I'm not getting what you mean.

Are you saying i will see it with a stretched 4:3 broadcast (my V+ is set to stretch 4:3 in the settings menu). This can't be the reason as Sky Sports News is ok, as are other 4:3 channels.

As for the size, I agree it is small. But it is still something that shouldn't be there! Its the principal, not the size. A fault is a fault. There must be a reason...

It is on 539 Setanta Sports 2 as we speak. Like a line of white stiches about 4 cm each, with maybe 2cm of black inbetween, to just after half way (L to R). Every few seconds it flickers whiter across the whole top. It is just half a cm in height, but clearly there!
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Posted on Nov 18, 2008, 11:38 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

I've got two very clear pictures of it. Just need to work out how to get the thing online! Have to be tomorrow.
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Posted on Nov 19, 2008, 10:53 AM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

I see it sometimes slightly on the top of my Pioneer 428XD on analogue aerial broadcasts. I think its when the broadcaster transmits a program thats not correctly aligned within the boundaries of the stated picture resolution so the tv scans essentially over the edge of the picture.


 

Posted on Nov 21, 2008, 3:39 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

Do the lines move at all? Are they dotted? If so, then you're looking at the full height with the ceefax control info visible. That's usually cropped by the TV.
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Posted on Nov 22, 2008, 8:54 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.



The discerning gentleman...
Samsung LE46A656 > Onkyo 606 > PS3, V+ > B&W MT30 > Tacima CS929, and an Aplhason Ambri
QED Silver Anniversary XT front, QED Micro rear. Free Virgin Media HDMI's
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Posted on Nov 22, 2008, 9:03 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

after much palava, I have attached clear images of the issue.

Can anyone be 100% about what it is, and whether there is a fix? Is it just a problem there is no cure for?!

Thanks MUST go to PJPRO for his great "how to" guide. The forum could do with it as a main link. I'd have no clue how to sort out pics otherwise. Sorry they are so big... can't seem to make them smaller.
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Soon to be annoying folk with connection and set up questions...

Posted on Nov 24, 2008, 2:06 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

These look like Ceefax/control code to me. My TV has the option to alter the scan slightly. If yours does this, it'll cure the problem, but it will by definition crop the picture.
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Posted on Nov 24, 2008, 10:01 PM

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Re: V+ and white lines at top of picture.

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V+ and white lines at top of picture. Part of two problems I have posted about. Some channels (Setanta: David Haye boxing being the latest)have a white line with black dashes in at the top of the picture. The line runs almost all the way accross the top from left towards the end of the right, and is under a finger's width. It looks like the little advert scroll, but stretched accross the whole screen and less thick. It isn't my TV as I have seen the same effect on my 37 inch LCD in the bedroom, with a different V+ box. Why does this happen, and is it something that I have to put up with, or can I solve it? I presume it is a broadcast fault as I have seen it in two seperate set ups?
I have exactly the same symptom with Sky HD box and a brand new Panasonic Plasma. Happened on Ch4 tonight but no set pattern as to which channel it happens on or when?
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