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hi, got a question for the what hifi team or the rest of the forum if sony has such big problems with clouding issues and it appears not to be an isolated incident, sony are dragging there heels and delaying   that there is any problem with there lcd tvs but looking through the complaints from people who have bought these tvs have been given second rate service and appear that it isnt a big problem i have seen first hand the big lcds picture and visited a sony tv centre and they said they had no picture problems and that there latest lcd on show was the best in shop. i totaly disagree with that as the sd picture was pretty bad still waiting for sonys reply that it is a certain batch thats at fault maybe its the lcd in large screen technolgy thats why there going into oled technology as the next generation any answers out there regarding this situation?

....and breathe!

We've seen some good first forays into the 50in+ space from LCDs, but you should note that in our Awards we gave the Best 50in+  TV Award to a plasma - the 50in Pioneer Kuro 

I still haven't seen problems with or had complaints from paying customers about large screen Sony LCD sets which, WHEN THEY ARE SET UP PROPERLY, look fantastic. On standard definition viewing distance is vital and if you are viewing from closer than 10 foot 50"+ is far too big. I'd be interested to know whether the Sony Centre you visited explained this properly because balancing size against viewing distance is one of the central tenets of our approach.

At those sizes I'd be waiting to see the new KDL-55X4500, although price might be an issue at the best part of £5k. It uses proper dynamic RGB backlighting (unlike the Samsungs which uses white LED backlighting) comprised of 2 green for every 1 blue and 1 red. I'm expecting to see one in the next few days and believe its set to be a major step forward.

Then there is the new ZX series which uses edge LED backlighting and a reflective layer to provide even backlighting across the screen AND its only 9.9mm thick. The seperate media box streams wirelessly to the TV at 1080i (with 3 HDMI inputs) and there is a direct HDMI socket on the set itself which provides full 1080p. We're currently demonstrating the wireless streaming on the new KDL-40EX1 and it is working extremely well, even in our shop full of TVs, bluetooth laptops and all manner of wireless networks and connections. The use of bluetooth technology for the remote instead of infrared makes placement of the media box very flexible too (ours is placed well away from the actual screen to demonstrate the flexibility of the system).

Large screen OLED at reasonable prices is still some way off. We will be getting an 11" model in our store fairly soon, but its still developing technology. Looks exciting though.

hi, clare thanks for the quick reply, i agree having  looked at the pioneer it is awesome but just got the panasonic 50" plasma because of the massive price difference but still very happy with picture quality.there is nothing like a good debate over technology to get people talking whats best.

Hi clown

Perhaps you need a little bit of reassurance but for what it's worth I think you made the right decision for the moment (and a little while to come yet)

I am not a die hard plasma fan, even though I just bought one, but for the moment most LCD's seem to be trying to emulate the many things good plasmas do well. This will perhaps change in the not to distant future. Where LCD leads the way at the moment is in reduced power consumption and screen brightness but once you adjusted them to something that doesn't give you immediate migraine they are normally toned down to plasma levels anyhow so to me at least, that's not to much of an advantage unless watching in bright sunshine.

Having said that, I have seen some promising lcd screens and somehow think its the future. Especially if what I've read about imminent technological advances for that technology is true.

Regards

 

hi drummerman, yep i agree dont think plasma or lcd is the future technology  but plasma leads the way at moment , that is going to change but who knows whats next OLED or something different lets wait and see.

Well i have the 52" w4000 and SD pictures are not bad on my set,ok if you're right in front of the screen it looks awful but its the same with plasma,but when your at your normal viewing distance the picture is fine

As for the clouding issues some people have had including me with w4500 series,Sony should definately do something about it