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How d'you go about bargaining them down?

Last post Dec 03, 2008, 5:03 PM by margetti. (14 replies)
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Posted on Nov 23, 2008, 3:55 PM

How d'you go about bargaining them down?

I'm rubbish at this sort of thing and much prefer to just pay the money and leave...

However, i'm after some CM1's rrp £500 and I'd much prefer to pay in the 400's.
I've tried before ages ago and was met with very much a concrete wall "prices are fixed" type attitude. I think once they offered my 10% off the demo pair which didn't even have matching grills!

Some people are much better at this so I'd love some tips!

Incidently there are 2 shops near me that stock these speakers!

Cheers,

Matt
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Posted on Nov 23, 2008, 4:19 PM

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I went to Tesco yesterday and would have preferred to pay £20 instead of £30 but there you go.

Seriously, all you can do is ask. The very most you are likely to get off is 10% but I think its more likely (and perfectly fair IMO) that they'll expect you to pay the going price.

If you have a Superfi near you and you're buying before the end of November they are giving a £10 voucher towards your next purchase for every £100 you spend there. They call it boomerang. I think its a great idea.

Audiophile?? NO! I'm a MUSICPHILE who happens to require the highest possible sound quality from my hi-fi.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2008, 4:32 PM

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What price are these two shops you're looking at seeling the item you want?


If they're different go into both armed with each others prices and make sure you state clearly "This shop down the road is doing them for X amount, would you be willing to compete with that?" I've done that occasionally with guitar shops (I know it's not hi-fi but retail is retail) who won't even check the other shops price, they seem to know and are willing to either match, beat or add some worthwhile freebies into the bargain on the spot.


It's always worth a try to get the best price but remember, we'd all like things cheaper but like the poster above made the point, sometimes the price you see is the price you'll get, and in these days where products are sold far nearer shops profit margins than they used to be I think it's far more realistic to find the best prices on the net and on the high street and go with what your pocket can afford.


If you can't afford it, wait until you can, or look into other options.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2008, 4:50 PM

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I would agree that your only option would be to ask each shop what the best deal is they can offer you. Tell them you are asking both shops and that you will be purchasing from the one that offers you the best deal.

To be honest, I have been trying to get deals on new speakers and it has not been easy so I have had to save a bit more and pay the retail price. At least you have piece of mind with warranties etc. Other options would be to wait for a second hand pair to pop up on ebay or similar.

But just asks the dealers and see what they say!

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Posted on Nov 26, 2008, 8:56 PM

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There's a guy on the BBC (can't remember his name, but he's bald!) who did have a series a few months back (not sure if it's still on) where he helps people who want to buy something - car, furniture, dress or whatever.   This guy claims to NEVER pay full price - he even got a haircut for half price!    His attitude is that people would sooner make a sale than not.

Mind you, he's quite cheeky and makes a point of joking with shop assistants and store managers first, finding out their first names, then asking for a discount for cash.   Even if they offer him one of, say, 5 or 10%, he'll ask for more - and usually gets it.   Not sure I'd have the bottle, and if everyone did this it wouldn't just be Woolworths and MFI going out of business! 

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Posted on Nov 26, 2008, 9:12 PM

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Don't get done get Dom! (Dominic Littlewood) is the bald chap you are on about.

Posted on Nov 26, 2008, 9:13 PM

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Good programme as well but you have to have the front to do it.
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Posted on Nov 26, 2008, 9:17 PM

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Octopo:
Don't get done get Dom! (Dominic Littlewood) is the bald chap you are on about.

 
That's the chap! 

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Posted on Nov 26, 2008, 9:55 PM

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Half price haircut you say? He's been done.

He's a car trader by profession.

 

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Posted on Nov 26, 2008, 10:16 PM

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The trick is to go with the best prices you can find for that particular piece of kit, and where you can get it for that price, and then ask if the dealer can match it (or at least go some way towards it), as you'd rather buy from them rather than somewhere else. At worst they will probably throw some accessories in. Always worth a try.

 

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Posted on Nov 27, 2008, 11:01 AM

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Try here if you are that way inclined ?
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Posted on Dec 02, 2008, 3:15 AM

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Speaking as a salesperson... seem uninterested/unconvinced. Say "work something up for me..." in a non-committal way. It's an art.
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Posted on Dec 03, 2008, 12:27 PM

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Going with some of the other posts here; it's not as easy as it was, some will some won't, also depends on your relationship with the shop in question, if you're a previous customer or whatever. I have a couple of shops in Edinburgh I go to and one in Glasgow who's been good (Loud and Clear and Retro Reproduction in Edinburgh and Audio Merchants in Glasgow all of whom I recommend highly for service). Price-wise they have the label and then they have the "well, I could do it for this..." but that goes mostly for used gear where they may have more flexibility.

It's a tough climate all round just now, the web undercuts the high street and so on, so if you want the deal, do the background footslogging on all the reviews you can find for what you want to shortlist and buy online. If you want dealer advice, a demo either instore on in the home, after-sales service and all the rest, be prepared to pay a little extra accordingly; it's only fair.



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Posted on Dec 03, 2008, 12:37 PM

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I find a straightforward "What's the best you can do" works wonders.

Let them respond, but don't say anything, just look disappointed. 9 times out of 10 they'll drop a little further.

It's true about being obstinate and prepared to walk though. I went to a music store to pick up some drum bits and I remember my bass player needed a new lead. I phoned him in the shop and he said "get the longest you can, but I don't really want to spend more than £20".

The longest lead they had in the shop was £36, the salesmen kept trying to push me into a sale, then tried to get me a shorter lead for the budget. I kept saying "Nah, I'll just leave it". In the end he crumbled, and I got my mate the good quality long lead that was £36 for £22.
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Posted on Dec 03, 2008, 5:03 PM

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I'm rubbish at this too, but got £10 off a £80 pre-amp today at Richer Sounds just by asking!

In my case I had the option of either the cheaper £50 model, or the £80 model. I just umm'd a bit, made a pathetic attempt at pretending the £80 model was just out of my budget, and then asked, "any chance of getting anything off the £80 model". The guy didn't even hesitate, although he was the store manager, so maybe that helped.

Store was pretty busy so I didn't press any further - Dom would have been disappointed I'm sure, but considering it was a CA amp I was buying (that only RS stock), I couldn't exactly play the "I'll go somewhere else" card.