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Last post Dec 01, 2008, 5:25 PM by the record spot. (26 replies)
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Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 5:23 PM

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Clare Newsome:

Totally agree re Oceans 11 remake being superior - and I say that as a massive fan of the Rat Pack ,who star in the (ncredibly self-indulgent) original.


[BTW - did anyone see the recent South Park Ocean's 11 pastiche re Barack Obama. Genius...] 


I can tolerate some Hollywood makeovers, but agree The Ladykillers was rubbish (a rare Coen Bros ***-up, too) , Aand can't stand history being re-written.


Worst example of this was U-571, where it appears the Americans captured the Enigma machine. Amazed they didn't relocate Bletchley Park to the old U S of A while they were at it....


I also detest the Hollywood habit of having to tell the audience exactly where anywhere out of the US is, whlle assuming a global audience knows where everywhere in America is. Eg 'Paris, France' vs 'Washington'... 


 



And Tom Hanks has a lot to answer for. . .Ahhhh!!

Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 5:59 PM

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The remakes of The Thing and The Fly give your home cinema a better work out than the originals !

Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 6:01 PM

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Ah "The Thing", what was the original called again?

Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 7:45 PM

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Clare Newsome:

I also detest the Hollywood habit of having to tell the audience exactly where anywhere out of the US is, whlle assuming a global audience knows where everywhere in America is. Eg 'Paris, France' vs 'Washington'... 

 



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Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 7:52 PM

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Going back to the original question, "The Departed" was okay, though I'd prefer "Infernal Affairs" over it any day.
Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil.
They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?"

Sister Miriam Godwinson,
"But for the Grace of God"

Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 7:55 PM

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Gwyndy:
"Infernal Affairs" over it any day.

Hang on I don't understand this, is Andrew Lau not the first? 

Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 8:58 PM

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Octopo:
Ah "The Thing", what was the original called again?


Um, The Thing from Another World!

Re: Good Hollywood remakes. Akira Kurosawa's films seem to work, especially westerns, John Ford being an influence - The Magnificent Seven (Seven Samurai), A Fistful of Dollars (Yojimbo) and you could say Star Wars (Hidden Fortress).
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Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 10:07 PM

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lonely boy:
Um, The Thing from Another World! Re: Good Hollywood remakes. Akira Kurosawa's films seem to work, especially westerns, John Ford being an influence - The Magnificent Seven (Seven Samurai), A Fistful of Dollars (Yojimbo) and you could say Star Wars (Hidden Fortress).


Most of the originals were filmed / financed by USA. I harking on about America rehashing cracking British films and claiming how brilliant they are.Hmm

Posted on Nov 16, 2008, 10:40 PM

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lonely boy:
The Magnificent Seven (Seven Samurai), A Fistful of Dollars (Yojimbo) and you could say Star Wars (Hidden Fortress).

Whooooaaa, hold on a second, Ocean's 11 is one thing but now we are taking on the greatest films ever made on both parts. Given that all films take inspiration from others (that's largely how progression works) I can't see a problem here. Films such as Seven Samurai have spurned a ridiculous amount of other movies, not intentionally copying it just taking inspiration from it's masterpiece. 

Posted on Nov 17, 2008, 11:02 AM

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dont forget that hollywood also 'remakes' a lots of its own out put....

coming up soon is a frankly hallowed scifi film from the 50's remake 'the day the earth stood still'....

now this is a truly iconic scifi film that in no way relied upon SFX or action to deliver its message (which was something very different in the dasy of the 1950's scifi)

i have no doubt that the new version will be more SFX driven with more action and Gort kicking more butt....BUT although i am huge fan of the original; i am expecting something new on the story .... which is incedently based on a short story from the 1940's called farewell to the master....
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Posted on Nov 30, 2008, 7:23 AM

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Hated much of the latest kong remake. have to pinch myself and remind meself that it was a pet project of jackson's for some time before he did TLOTR trilogy, as it looks just like a vanity project to me. "Well Peter, you made us a beucket load of money, so here's some of it back. indulge yourself"!

That ridiculous chase sequence...everything in teh original looked more real than the animals in that. And i really didnt need to see him...er..."skating".

Saw the omen remake as it was on telly. totally toothless. i refuse to watch teh wicker man remake (tho could crack when its on telly, just for a laugh).

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Posted on Dec 01, 2008, 5:25 PM

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Clare Newsome:


I also detest the Hollywood habit of having to tell the audience exactly where anywhere out of the US is, whlle assuming a global audience knows where everywhere in America is. Eg 'Paris, France' vs 'Washington'... 

 



Must admit Clare, I think this is for the benefit of a lot of the stay at home Yanks - I think someone ought to really confuse them by filming one set in Washington, Tyne and Wear...


EDIT: I see someone else beat me to that one. A sequel maybe?! Big Smile



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